jim is in that area right now. jim, is there a sense that the danger has passed? >> reporter: there's a sense that they faced down the destruction that has been caused. they've now seen those images that you showed, you saw the faces of those evacuees, what they've been through. there are still dangers looming out there, a long way to go. the gas lines you were talking about are still a challenge in some areas. some residents challenging why they haven't been cut off much earlier. and there's hopes that that can be done today. not as easy as it sounds. gaining access to where they can cut off these lines still will leave some of those lines pressurized. there's still a potential threat there. of course, before they can reenergize any of the electric lines in some of these communities, they have to ensure that job is done, carol. otherwise, it could ignite new fires. there's one of the major risks that remains. there are still some people that are holding out, some elderly with their pets, but they're about to give it up. there's no electricity. there's no prospect